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Too Much Is Better Than Too Little | Alfred Hilsberg, ZickZack & the Invention of the German Underground

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Oct. 8 - Nov. 7, 2026

Opening Reception: Oct. 8, 6-8pm

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Curated by Sukhdev Sandhu

Presented in collaboration with Goethe-Institut NY

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The late 1970s and early 1980s was a period of imaginative intensity, wild recklessness and magnificent mutation in Germany. Not just in Berlin, but in cities and regions across the country, teenagers who had caught the punk virus unlearned their instruments, made strange synthetic sounds that the radio stations and major labels regarded as anti-music, and created a fierce, fractured poetry out of the German language. Äbwarts, DAF, Der Plan, Einstürzende Neubaten, Malaria!, Palais Schaumberg, Xmal Deutschland: at the peak of the Cold War, a time of No Wave and No Future, these bands—and hundreds like them—radiated an energy, dark wit and a spirit of experimentation that is still arresting, and in some cases waiting to be discovered still in 2026.
 
At the start and at the heart of this movement was Alfred Hilsberg (1947-2025). Born in Wolfsburg, he was a Hamburg-based journalist, filmmaker and concert promoter who saw punk as a form of social emancipation. In a series of articles for the best-selling music magazine Sounds, he talked of German punk as an exercise in democracy: it encouraged, he believed, a do-it-yourself attitude; incited culture from below; and produced “small daily revolutions”. Even to sing in German was, he argued, a blow against the imperialism of Anglo-American pop. Hilsberg organized landmark music festivals in Hamburg, wrote a column "neustes Deutschlands" that chronicled the emergent noises, new sounds, and popularized the concept of a Neue Deutsche Welle.
 
With his knowledge of historical counterculturalism, his fondness for bold proclamations, and his irrepressible enthusiasm, Hilsberg can be seen as the German counterpart of Tony Wilson, the celebrated founder of Manchester’s Factory Records. His own label, ZickZack, began in 1980 and released, in short succession and spanning post-punk, art rock, minimal synth and proto-industrial sounds, more than a hundred records. Some of these were by now-revered artists such as Einstürzende Neubaten, FSK, Andreas Dorau, Die Tödliche Doris, and Die Krupps, while others were dismissed as pretentious and unlistenable. Hilsberg didn’t care: his motto was “Lieber zu viel als zu wenig,"—"Too much is better than too little." By 1982, before its sudden demise, ZickZack had become the most successful German independent label.
 
Too Much Is Better Than Too Little is the first exhibition devoted to Alfred Hilsberg and ZickZack ever to be mounted outside Germany. In collaboration with Various/Artists, the exhibition will feature rare and unseen records, badges, flyers, and posters from the collection of Christian Iffland; photography and heady documentation by Sabine Schwabroh (Hilsberg’s life partner and the foremost chronicler of the Hamburg underground); and early Super-8 films of Klaus Maeck (filmmaker and founder, in 1979, of Hamburg’s first punk store, Rip Off Records).
 
In parallel with the show, there will be a discussion between Gudrun Gut (Malaria!/Mania D) and J.G. Thirlwell (Foetus); Deutsche Kassettentäter/German Tape Delinquents, an artist's talk by musician/curator Felix Kubin (who, barely 14, was one half of the band Die Egozentrischen 2 that Hilsberg signed to ZickZack); a talk by cultural historian Seth Howes on East German punk activism; a DJ event by artist/filmmaker Maya Hardinge focusing on female German musicians. There will also be limited-edition publications on Hilsberg and on East German fanzines.

Public Programs

PUBLIC PROGRAMS

OCT. 13 | 6:30-8:30pm
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GERMAN TAPE DELINQUENTS
Rise of the German Home Recording Tape Scene, 1980-1990 | ft. Felix Kubin
 
In the late 1970s, the German music scene was shaken up by a virtual explosion of new bands that sounded radically different to anything that had come before. They played music that was experimental, playful, absurd, minimalist and astute, with lyrics that were sung – or more commonly screamed – exclusively in German. Small companies like ZickZack and Ata Tak started to release records by these young artists who were springing up like mushrooms. The independent record label was born. The spirit of this new movement – later branded Neue Deutsche Welle – emerged from a collision between the self-confident attitude of punk, the legacy of Germany's electronic avantgarde and a belief in the imminence of an atomic apocalypse.

Felix Kubin, who started creating experimental electronic 4-track music himself as a teenager in 1981, presents a kaleidoscope of sound, tape and fanzine examples, including interviews with Alfred Hilsberg (the founder of Hamburg’s seminal ZickZack records) and Frank Apunkt Schneider (author of the book Als die Welt noch unterging - "When the world was still on the verge of downfall").

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OCT. 26 | 6:30-8:30pm
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HELP YOURSELF
East German Punk on Record, Tape, and Celluloid | ft. Seth Howes
 
In East Germany, as elsewhere, punk was practiced betwixt and between other forms of DIY culture: the exhibition of installation and performance art, the self-publishing of chapbooks and little magazines, and the circulation of music and sound recordings. This talk examines artifacts of East German punk—super-8 films, cassette tapes, and so-tamizdat LPs recorded in the East and released illegally in the West—to reconstruct the working conditions that shaped East German punk culture. Film clips, musical selections, and visual materials will be discussed in context, followed by a Q&A.

Seth Howes is associate professor of German at the University of Missouri. He is the author of Moving Images on the Margins: Experimental Film in Late Socialist East Germany (Camden House, 2019) the and co-editor, with Mirko Hall and Cyrus Shahan, of Beyond No Future: Cultures of German Punk (Bloomsbury, 2016).

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NOV. 2 | 6:30pm (doors open at 6pm)
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B-MOVIE: LUST & SOUND IN WEST BERLIN 1979-1989 

(dir. Jorg A. Hoppe, Klaus Maeck & Heiko Lange, 2015)

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West Berlin in the 1980s was in the middle of the Cold War. And, according to Blixa Bargeld - just one of those young Germans drawn to its coldness and claustrophobia, its reckless clubs and queer intensities - a war against sleep.

 

"The grey and blackened battle-scarred buildings still had bullet holes from the end of the war," recalls Mark Reeder. "Berlin seemed full of weirdos. Every day on Kurfuerstendamm, an odd-looking elderly woman, Helga Goetze, sat in front of the bombed-out Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church, reciting erotic poetry and crocheting doilies with little epigrams like 'Have a wank'. 

 

B-MOVIE: LUST & SOUND IN WEST BERLIN 1979-1989, infrequently-screened owing to copyright issues, is a window on a mostly-lost time and place. Based on the experiences of Mark Reeder, a smiling young Mancunian who decamped there because of his love of German underground music, it's a heady collage. A celebration of collapse, other ways of making. It also teems with unseen Super-8 and video footage of Gudrun Gut and Malaria!, Blixa Bargeld and Die Tödliche Doris, Nick Cave and New Order; artists such as Martin Kippenberger and Keith Haring; legendary clubs Risiko, Metropole, and SL36 in Kreuzberg.

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Klaus Maeck is a producer, scriptwriter and director. In 1979, he opened Rip-Off, Hamburg's first punk shop. Later he managed Einstürzende Neubaten. He has worked closely with Fatih Akin, co-producing Head-On (2003), Crossing The Bridge (2005) and The Edge of Heaven (2007). He is also the co-director of Decoder (1984), William S. Burroughs: Commissioner of Sewers (1991), and All Is One, Except 0 (2021).

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This screening is a prelude to German Punk, a 12-part film program co-presented by the German Film Office and the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung-New York Office at Anthology Film Archives, 4-11 November 2026

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NOV. 5 | 6:30-8:30pm

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At Goethe Institut NY

30 Irving Place
New York, NY 10003

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Draußen ist feindlich/Out There is Hostile

Panel Discussion | A Conversation about German Punk with Gudrun Gut, JG Thirlwell, & Vivien Goldman

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In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a generation of young Germans became infected by the punk virus. Not for them schlager-schmaltz, smiling chart pop, droning kosmische: they craved voltage, attitude, rewiring. Their enemies were multiple: capitalism, boredom, housewifery, piety, the spectre of nuclear war. In punk—its sounds and attitudes—they found an alternative community. Bands were formed, fanzines scribbled, DIY labels started, clubs and underground venues developed. Wild, inventive music emerged—Malaria!, DAF, Äbwarts, Einstürzende Neubaten, Die Tödliche Doris. Angles and edge, raw rhythms, the dance floor deconstructed.

This evening brings together three of the most revered and restless figures of the punk and post-punk era. Gudrun Gut, JG Thirlwell, and Vivien Goldman will discuss the musical and social revolutions they experienced in Germany, the ways in which punk questioned the freedoms offered by the state, its post-unification legacies. What does—could—German punk mean in 2026?

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Gudrun Gut is a foundational figure in the story of German punk and independent music. She was a member of all-women bands Mania D, Malaria! and Matador, in an early incarnation of Einsturzende Neubaten, and a founder of the record labels Monika Enterprise and Moabit Musik. She has also been a radio producer, festival curator, and international DJ. Subject of a 2021 book M_DOKUMENTE, and featured in Reto Caduff’s Jetzt im Kino: Einfach Machen! She-Punks von 1977 bis heute (2024), she filmed and released her own miniseries GUT for the German TV ARD Mediathek (2023).

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JG Thirwell is a composer/producer/performer based in Brooklyn, NY. Born in Melbourne, he moved to London in 1978, then relocated to NYC in 1983, where he has been based ever since. As wellas his own name, he works under many pseudonyms including Foetus, Xordox, Manorexia, Steroid Maximus, Baby Zizanie, Hydroze Plus, Clint Ruin, and Wiseblood. He has released over forty albums, worked as a producer, remixer and collaborator for artists such as Karen O, Coil and Nick Cave, and is an acclaimed graphic artist.

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Vivien Goldman is a writer, educator, broadcaster and musician. A Londoner, she now lives in New York where she is an Adjunct Professor at NYU's Clive Davis Institute. Her early '80s post-punk music was anthologized on the 2016 LP Resolutionary. Rebel Musix, Scribe on a Vibe: Frontline Adventures Linking Punk, Reggae, Afrobeat and Jazz, a selection of her journalism, is published this fall.

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NOV. 7 | 6 - 9pm
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CLOSING RECEPTION
with DJ Maya Hardinge (One of Our Girls Has Gone Missing) 

 

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